Comments on: Youth Ministry: If I were to do it again… http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/ Guiding Students Into Spiritual Formation for the Mission of God Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:00:55 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: » Bookmarks for June 25th through August 25th » EasyRew.com http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-8604 » Bookmarks for June 25th through August 25th » EasyRew.com Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:01:20 +0000 http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/#comment-8604 [...] Youth Ministry: If I were to do it again… – I was asked, “If you were to go back and do youth ministry again, as you once did, how would what you know now change how you would lead a youth ministry?” So, if I were to go back and lead a youth ministry again I would… [...] [...] Youth Ministry: If I were to do it again… – I was asked, “If you were to go back and do youth ministry again, as you once did, how would what you know now change how you would lead a youth ministry?” So, if I were to go back and lead a youth ministry again I would… [...]

]]> By: Looking Back « The New Gray http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6699 Looking Back « The New Gray Sat, 06 Jun 2009 04:16:39 +0000 http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/#comment-6699 [...] Below is the list, I’ll add my own thoughts to this list in the coming days, but here’s Chris’s take for your perusal: [...] [...] Below is the list, I’ll add my own thoughts to this list in the coming days, but here’s Chris’s take for your perusal: [...]

]]> By: Mike http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6698 Mike Sat, 06 Jun 2009 04:10:27 +0000 http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/#comment-6698 Chris, Thanks for posting your thoughts. I've been in youth ministry for almost 8 years, but ran into a brick wall about six months ago. As I've reflected and tried to learn from the mistakes, the self-sufficiency and pride, I've come to realize how much I wish I would have done differently. Your list both gives voice to a lot of those thoughts that I just didn't know how to verbalize. Thanks for the post and your continual thinking! Chris,

Thanks for posting your thoughts. I’ve been in youth ministry for almost 8 years, but ran into a brick wall about six months ago. As I’ve reflected and tried to learn from the mistakes, the self-sufficiency and pride, I’ve come to realize how much I wish I would have done differently. Your list both gives voice to a lot of those thoughts that I just didn’t know how to verbalize. Thanks for the post and your continual thinking!

]]> By: Community Planting » Blog Archive » doing things differently… http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6696 Community Planting » Blog Archive » doing things differently… Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:57:24 +0000 http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/#comment-6696 [...] Here is Chris’s link :: Youth Ministry: If I were to do it again… (this is a must read if you in youth ministry for sure! So definitely go read the full post!) [...] [...] Here is Chris’s link :: Youth Ministry: If I were to do it again… (this is a must read if you in youth ministry for sure! So definitely go read the full post!) [...]

]]> By: erikwillits.com » Blog Archive » Things we could do differently in Youth Ministry… http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6580 erikwillits.com » Blog Archive » Things we could do differently in Youth Ministry… Sun, 31 May 2009 16:10:48 +0000 http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/#comment-6580 [...] Youth Ministry: If I were to do it again… (this is a must read if you in youth ministry. here is a little taste! [...] [...] Youth Ministry: If I were to do it again… (this is a must read if you in youth ministry. here is a little taste! [...]

]]> By: Erik Willits http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6577 Erik Willits Sun, 31 May 2009 16:06:01 +0000 http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/#comment-6577 Chris, really liked this post! Shot it to a bunch of my buddies who are in student ministry and even gave it a little love on by blog. Hope you don't mind! thanks for the thoughts. Peace Erik Chris, really liked this post! Shot it to a bunch of my buddies who are in student ministry and even gave it a little love on by blog. Hope you don’t mind!

thanks for the thoughts.

Peace
Erik

]]> By: Erik Leafblad http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6541 Erik Leafblad Sat, 30 May 2009 15:54:13 +0000 http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/#comment-6541 I love the list. One could really develop each of these points more substantially and offer some really valuable resources for youth workers and the churches they serve. Maybe Barefoot should do that. :-) The missional/attractional one is one that I most resonate with, and yet the one that I think is probably the hardest to realize. Becoming missional is such a difficult task, and it seems to me that without a wholesale shift in all facets of the church, becoming missional is near impossible. You're talking about an overhaul of virtually everything in that kind of change -- the way we preach, evangelize, think through our budgets, educate our congregations, gather, fellowship, etc. -- so that its almost like a new birth (hence Guder's continuing conversion of the church). Rock the status quo too much... well, you know what happens. Maybe I'm just overly pessimistic, but I've seen many youth pastors set out to introduce this kind of change, humbly, and find themselves disheartened quickly. That's why, I think this list, while apropos for youth ministries, very much applies to the church in general, especially this bullet. I love the list. One could really develop each of these points more substantially and offer some really valuable resources for youth workers and the churches they serve. Maybe Barefoot should do that. :-)

The missional/attractional one is one that I most resonate with, and yet the one that I think is probably the hardest to realize. Becoming missional is such a difficult task, and it seems to me that without a wholesale shift in all facets of the church, becoming missional is near impossible. You’re talking about an overhaul of virtually everything in that kind of change — the way we preach, evangelize, think through our budgets, educate our congregations, gather, fellowship, etc. — so that its almost like a new birth (hence Guder’s continuing conversion of the church). Rock the status quo too much… well, you know what happens.

Maybe I’m just overly pessimistic, but I’ve seen many youth pastors set out to introduce this kind of change, humbly, and find themselves disheartened quickly. That’s why, I think this list, while apropos for youth ministries, very much applies to the church in general, especially this bullet.

]]> By: after 13 years: “If I could do it all over again” « Ramblings of Passion http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6537 after 13 years: “If I could do it all over again” « Ramblings of Passion Sat, 30 May 2009 13:01:07 +0000 http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/#comment-6537 [...] May 30, 2009 by Adam Lehman Chris, over at the “A New Kind of Youth Ministry” blog put together a solid list consisting of what he’d do if he could do it all over. As a guy who is just finishing up my first year in student ministry, Chris’ list was challenging and very timely. I’m definitely going to print this out, send it to my volunteers, and reread it as I’m making decisions. Here are a few items from the list, head over to his blog to see the whole list: [...] [...] May 30, 2009 by Adam Lehman Chris, over at the “A New Kind of Youth Ministry” blog put together a solid list consisting of what he’d do if he could do it all over. As a guy who is just finishing up my first year in student ministry, Chris’ list was challenging and very timely. I’m definitely going to print this out, send it to my volunteers, and reread it as I’m making decisions. Here are a few items from the list, head over to his blog to see the whole list: [...]

]]> By: Links for May 29, 2009 | Youth Hacks http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6516 Links for May 29, 2009 | Youth Hacks Fri, 29 May 2009 22:55:23 +0000 http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/#comment-6516 [...] Youth Ministry: If I were to do it again - Chris Folmsbee shares how he might do things differently if he took a second shot at youth ministry. [...] [...] Youth Ministry: If I were to do it again – Chris Folmsbee shares how he might do things differently if he took a second shot at youth ministry. [...]

]]> By: Matt Wilks http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6505 Matt Wilks Fri, 29 May 2009 16:29:55 +0000 http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com/2009/05/29/youth-ministry-if-i-were-to-do-it-again/#comment-6505 Chris - I love that you have finally put this list down in a way that we can all interact with it in one format. I think that this list has been a list that has been developing over the 4-5 years we both have been out of the "paid" youth pastor world. I have enjoyed the many car conversations we have had about this list. I would add: - Think less about the end product and more about the teaching and learning in the current - Thiink more about the individual rather than the whole group which made me create a great system - Pursuit of deeper relationships with one another as a group - Teaching more about the Holy Spirit and actually letting the Holy Spirit work in the lives of our group both leaders and students - Contribute way more to the benefit of the whole church rather than building my special student silo. Thanks pal for a reminder of what the main things are in student ministry. Matt Chris -
I love that you have finally put this list down in a way that we can all interact with it in one format.

I think that this list has been a list that has been developing over the 4-5 years we both have been out of the “paid” youth pastor world. I have enjoyed the many car conversations we have had about this list.

I would add:

- Think less about the end product and more about the teaching and learning in the current
- Thiink more about the individual rather than the whole group which made me create a great system
- Pursuit of deeper relationships with one another as a group
- Teaching more about the Holy Spirit and actually letting the Holy Spirit work in the lives of our group both leaders and students
- Contribute way more to the benefit of the whole church rather than building my special student silo.

Thanks pal for a reminder of what the main things are in student ministry.

Matt

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